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We've often talked in the chat about having a “reference question” telling people not to use Kali Linux. Well, here's my proposal. Edits welcome, but please keep the gist unless we decide on meta that this isn't the advice we want to give as a community. Note that I do not propose systematically closing Kali questions! Each question should be judged on its ...


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They are, sadly, more appropriate here, seeing the distro is based on a Linux kernel. In order to minimise the impact on those of us who have little patience for the numbats that think that installing Kali will make them l337 haXX0r5, please—as a public service— ensure that they are all tagged kali-linux so we can add them to our ignored tag ...


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In retrospect, I agree that the WIKSH thread isn't working out as intended. I do think that the WIKSH thread is useful, but it doesn't work as a duplicate target. It guides people towards solving their problem — by telling them to use a different distribution — but it doesn't answer their actual question: instead, it explains why their question isn't getting ...


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Listening to my fellow networking security classmates from years back, when it was still called BackTrack Linux, I can fully understand this phenomenon. It's somewhat anecdotal, but Kali Linux is seen as the "Swiss army knife" of Linux, and if you haven't installed it yet you aren't cool. Meanwhile I had been using Debian for years, and around that time was ...


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Many, probably most, kali-linux questions on this site are extremely low quality. They show no effort, lack any useful detail, are often extremely basic, frequently trying to do things the distribution is unsuitable for, and from users who have no interest in learning or aiding others to help them learn, or some combination of those traits. That is the ...


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What should we do about Kali questions? I think we should treat them just like questions for any other distribution, perhaps with extra warnings in the tag excerpt and wiki. Just a quick reminder that we voted to allow Kali questions as on-topic here (pushed over from Ask Ubuntu), given that they applied the Kali tag. I try to re-tag questions that "forget" ...


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Kali is a *nix distribution! Keep the script-kiddies coming!


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No, I agree that one shouldn't have been closed. This is a surprising change since apt-get has been the standard for many years and even experienced users might have been blindsided by it. I had completely misunderstood the situation. I thought that Debian and, by extension Kali, no longer used apt-get and only shipped with apt. I thought this was a new ...


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I'm not sure what else can be extolled about Kali questions. There was a extensive discussion about them back when @Gilles created the meta + an attempt to create a reference question to close against for questions that fit a specific type. This was that meta discussion titled: What should we do about Kali Linux questions? @Gilles answer: Note that I do ...


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We are barking up the wrong tree. We can put whatever we want in the excerpt and the wiki, and it won't make any difference to any but a vanishingly small proportion of askers. What we should do is ask SE for a tag warning, a la this warning implemented in Ask Ubuntu. I think the feature is still buggy (IIRC if you post the question right after adding the ...


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I have to write an answer because I disagree with how you formatted the main points; let me try: We close when the question is unclear, but because it is unclear. We close when it is too broad but because it is too broad. I said when the Kali dupe was proposed that: I think we should treat them just like questions for any other distribution, perhaps with ...


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The issue with Kali Linux is many of the questions have hardly anything to do with Kali specifically but are issues with using a tool or completing a task in Linux. As user Michael Mrozek points out, there was a meta-thread that was created to address this problem. Largely, the solution developed in that post works. Some users are quick to close questions ...


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Please. Please! PLEASE! Keep those Kali questions away from here!


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IMO the flood of questions is not being per se about kali questions; it is just that a large number of questions about kali are badly formed, and most are a rush job from inexperienced users/people with bad work ethics. Most are just inexperienced users not wanting to invest time in investigating the OS, and furthermore not wanting to take time writing a ...


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Kali is specifically targetted at hcrackers as the title of their web page states: Kali Linux: Penetration testing and ethical hacking Linux Distribution Kali attracts wannabe crackers. Adolescent boys, generally, enthralled by the idea of penetration (paging Dr Freud). Not only are they clueless about Linux, they have little awareness about anything ...


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Q&As about Kali Linux, a Linux distribution based on Debian that is specifically intended for use by security specialists, not as a general-purpose operating system. Please read the information for Kali Linux questions and answers that is linked-to in the corner of this box. Kali Linux is a security-related Linux-based operating system, derived from ...


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Currently the WIKSH question is linked in the tag info. This isn't visible when asking the question. If something along those lines was also in the excerpt, that might help a bit too. An other alternative could be to add an info pop-up with a message when users add the tag kali-linux to a question, similar to how BiologySE and several others have on their ...


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Mr Google's fault ! Try to ask google a kali question, superuser, stackoverflow and unix & Linux (and maybe serverfault) will come as first link. If you scroll down google's list a little more, you'll find link like doc.kali.org or forum.kali.org where you'll find many FAQs about booting/installing USB/external disk/whatever. People who really want to ...


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I stand ready to be flamed for this but here goes........ First of all I need to say I agree with @Gilles post Why is Kali....etc but I think something is missing. It seems true that many of the 'poor quality' Kali questions come from new Linux users who are quite simply out of their depth. They've seen a cool movie or something about 'hacking' and think ...


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To begin with, Kali questions aren't hated more than questions on other topics, it is just that for some unexplainable reason many novice users pick Kali as a desktop distribution, despite the fact that Kali is a special purpose distribution (built on top of Debian). Yes, you can use Kali as a regular desktop distro; for instance, I do that - without the ...


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There are times when the opinion "I believe you've picked the wrong tool for the job" is an appropriate response. You have answered your own question. This does not imply that Kali is either zenith or nadir. Nor does it imply anything about the questioner. And it is in the same vein as saying to use printf instead of echo -e, or saying to use command -v/...


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I've had misgivings about the use of this question for a while and feel the need to vent. @terdon thankyou for taking this action and offering a good place to discuss it. How we answer XY problems Kali linux questions are an excellent example of common XY problems. The majority of Kali questions we see may try to ask something specific, but the real ...


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I propose a solution: How about editing the Why is Kali Linux so hard to set up? Why won't people help me? question, to show how to properly write a question, some general help/advice, and some links to sites that would possibly be more helpful? Before now, (and before actually looking at the "why" question), it wasn't clear that that was a question set up ...


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In theory, we have one already, though it sometimes gets misused. A competent Kali could help themselves by: asking a good question if their question is "unfairly" closed as a duplicate of "I'm in over my head", they can do their best to identify how they are not in over their heads by editing their Question and hoping for reopen votes. I see that as a ...


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IMO, that the problem isn't that Kali Linux isn't for beginners, but the temptation to close Kali questions as dupes for the sake of closing. From my observations, many SE communities have a tendency to close questions when there's a reason to, even if the question should probably not be closed. I once asked a question on Ask Ubuntu about a general issue on ...


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