I earlier using Kali Linux. I asked lot of questions with tag. I had read the answer.

Linux isn't hard but, kali is.

I noticed that I could use Kali more smoothly. When I was trying to install . I notice that it is very hard to install . So, why people says that Kali is hard? While I get very smooth. I had only 10% knowledge of Linux that's why I had to ask very beginner type questions. Even, I left in a day cause, it was very harder. As I said I don't have much more knowledge of Linux that's why I am writing the question. While is harder than why peoples are responding to arch questions not Kali's? So, arch is also for professionals. Most of users are ignoring Kali's questions but, not Arch's why?

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    Installing Arch is hard, Arch is also not designed for new users. However, using Arch is the same as any other normal Linux while Kali is not.
    – terdon Mod
    Apr 20 at 8:24
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    I'd be careful with "foo is hard" statements. Installing (and administering) Arch is probably harder than installing some friendlier distributions, but it becomes quite easy once you realize that a detailed guide exists and take the time (and patience) to read through all the relevant pages. On the other hand, Arch (which, by the way, is not mentioned in the quoted answer) doesn't target the average user; rather, it tends to work best for those willing to take the point of view of a distribution developer.
    – fra-san
    Apr 20 at 10:56
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    "why peoples are responding to arch questions not Kali's?": what did suggest you that? Out of 2019 kali-linux questions, 410 are unanswered (~20.3 %); that figure is 917/4011 (~22.9 %) for arch-linux. Even looking at the 50 most recent questions (right now) (basically unaffected by the automatic cleanup of >30 days old closed and non-closed, negatively-scored questions), 23 of those tagged Kali have at least one answer, compared to 20 in the case of Arch.
    – fra-san
    Apr 20 at 12:56
  • People aren't ignoring Kali questions, as you put it, and preferring to answer Arch questions. People answer the questions to which they have an answer.
    – Chenmunka
    Apr 21 at 15:55
  • @Chenmunka No people doesn't answer "the question" which they can answer... Cause, when I was using Linux Mint i had face an issue then, everyone solved that. While when I faced the same issue Kali no one came to answer my question...!
    – user449077
    Apr 26 at 8:05

I hesitate to post this as an Answer, because I don't have any direct experience with Kali (or with Arch Linux, for that matter), so I'm not the target audience here. That won't stop me from speculating a bit, though.

Beyond fra-san's point in the comment about the unanswered percentages being similar (I see ranges from ~28% for Debian, to ~35% for both Kali and Arch, to ~36% for Ubuntu), I think Kali users had a rough start at Stack Exchange. In 2015, when we accepted their redirection from Ask Ubuntu, there were already worrying signs: "so we can add them to our ignored tag list" and "I don't entirely understand all the terrible Kali questions we've been seeing lately". I see there are nearly twice as many deleted Kali questions than deleted Arch questions.

The story continued, with Why is Kali Linux so hard to set up? Why won't people help me?, saying "Kali Linux is a distribution for professional penetration testers who are already very familiar with Linux" and What should we do about Kali Linux questions?, saying "It's well-known that we have a quality problem in the kali-linux tag" and Splash screen test for kali-linux questions and Why are Kali questions hated so much?, and finally with Yet another Kali Discussion (Working Title) saying "I wonder if we can find a way, as a community, to direct people away from Kali without telling them "Kali is great!" and without requiring such opinionated responses".

I think what happened is that we got an influx of poorly-asked questions which then got downvoted, closed, and/or deleted, and also (I suspect) caused many users (potential Answerers) to ignore the tag.

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    I was using Kali for a long while. I started Debian. I noticed there was lot of problem I was facing in Debian. I wasn't familiar with those problems also. So, I left Debian. I noticed most of Kali users including faces wireless connection problem. Few days some commented in a post that one of Kali documentation is saying that there's some problem wireless connection. I don't remember the accurate documentation. I searched a lot but, I didn't find. Arch is lot more harder than Kali. Cause, Arch isn't based on Debian. In my view, I didn't find any difference between Ubuntu and Kali.
    – user449077
    May 4 at 5:17
  • Kali is only best for Pen-testing, I understood when I moved to Fedora. I am keep searching for wireless connection problem in Kali(Why this happens to all peoples?). Even, when I talk to professional Kali users. They don't reply. I don't know why. That's why I left Kali. In this community some people says,"While you are using Kali you shouldn't ask this question." I request to moderators to review this kind of comments. Kali users don't get help. Even, I was having issue with mailing. They said,"You are using Kali you shouldn't ask this." That's why I asked the question.
    – user449077
    May 4 at 5:22
  • Kali wireless issues more happen in VM afaik. Thankfully I am never troubled by any wireless issue apart from some resolvconf issue after running apt full-upgrade in 2018 versions of kali.
    – Machinexa
    Sep 16 at 14:47

Kali is hard?

Kali isn't that hard as people may tell you. Let me share my story with this distro. I am not a full-time penetration tester nor do any kind of cybersecurity job but am rather a bug hunter and have used kali for more than two years having installed it many times. I also installed Debian 11 (bullseye) and Ubuntu, later on, to see what's better. "Kali is hard" is bullshit. Let me explain why

Why it isn't

First of all, kali is a Debian-based distro, so it shares many of the common features of Ubuntu and Debian distro itself.


Let's start with installation. The installation process of Debian and Kali Linux is almost the same. I couldn't find any difference between them. You have to select country, locales, keyboard map, partman, and other options. I don't remember how the Ubuntu installation process was as I installed it a quite long time ago but I think it is pretty much similar. Sometimes, kali has a problem where it can't find cdrom which was a problem of the past, maybe is still present now. Recently, I noticed in 2020 versions of installer in certain computers, it fails to find firmware which I thought to be unique to kali but it isn't.


Moving on to general features, it has pretty much the same features as any Debian-based distro. It used to have GNOME DE (which Ubuntu has) but is replaced now by XFCE which isn't by any means "harder" to work with. The user credentials are determined during setup and thus it's easy to log in. There's a panel for the terminal, web browser, and other kinds of stuff. The package manager is also the same and the one issue kali has is that some packages may not be present and sometimes cross-compatibility is an issue. Though, many general-purpose packages are available such as Libreoffice and Openbabel.

I tried adding kali /etc/sources.list to Debian bullseye and amazingly, apt commands worked well and I even installed kali packages in Debian without breaking it. You may call out the wifi issue to show kali is harder to set up but that isn't an inherent issue of kali. When I helped my friend to installed Debian 11, I found Debian /etc/sources.list has only the main but not non-free and non-contrib packages. This caused PC to not have wlsp01, and thus the sources.list has to be manually changed to include non-free and non-contrib. After some steps, the wireless interface reappeared. When talking about kali, it includes non-free and non-contrib directly from installation. In my opinion, kali is as hard as any Debian based OS. There's is nothing special about it apart from having pre-installed tools.

My guess on how it originated

So, where's the "kali is hard" issue originated from? Well, many people these days want to be called hackers, and kali is a quite famous distro so all of those Windows users probably have switched to Linux for the first time, tried to set up and install Linux, and failed. They might have asked questions that might apply for any Debian based distro, but their tag was made as if they specifically asked for kali linux. I don't have experience, statistics, or any data on how are those typical kali questions so my guesses could be wrong.

Arch vs Kali answers

Since arch is more famous as a general-purpose distro than kali, it has a wider audience thus more answers for arch. Arch was personally difficult to install for me. Also, kali isn't general-purpose OS but you could make it one by removing most of the pre-installed tools and make Debian 11 a kali like system (as I told you earlier through sources.list but may break some package? ).

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