I'm not advocating a rename here, really, just curious. It seems like out of the "unix and linux" scope advertised, the vast majority of the questions are either Linux or generic *nix. What was the rationale for picking unix for the subdomain over linux, or perhaps nix?
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Related – badp Nov 16 '10 at 15:11
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2@badp: Not really. I saw that, and I have no idea why someone thought "open source" would be a good catchall term for unix/linux/*nix. I am fully aware of the scope of the site. – Cascabel Nov 16 '10 at 15:15
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2lunix would be great! for anyone who has read that adequacy article. – Tobu Feb 27 '11 at 23:43
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We didn't have any say in that, the domain was assigned, and I imagine whoever handled it didn't put a lot of thought into it (that was back before we realized the domain would be permanent -- when our beta started it was still the plan to buy top-level domains when sites launched). Some sites have multiple subdomains in case of confusion, and https://linux.stackexchange.com/ will work as well; they probably just made the primary one https://unix.stackexchange.com/ because Unix appears first in the name
answered Nov 16 '10 at 16:29
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I find unix-SE excellent, in a sense that the site is about the Unix family of OSes. Linux is more a subset of Unix.
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Linux isn't really a subset of unix. It's better described as unix-like (nix or unx); those are better names for the family of OSes we're talking about here, even if they're not good domain names. – Cascabel Nov 16 '10 at 23:09
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1@Jef, I said more a subset, not a subset. This was in a sense of Unix as a family, much as I'd say x86 family if I was referring to both Intel and AMD parts, instead of referring to AMD parts as x86-like. – tshepang Nov 16 '10 at 23:12
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I get that, and I know no one would say unix is part of the linux family, but I'm much more used to hearing unix-like, nix, unx, and maybe unix family than I am "Unix OSes". I know I'm getting a little pedantic, but there you are. – Cascabel Nov 16 '10 at 23:19
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@Jef, This reminds of a case of OSes like Ubuntu and Linux Mint... what to classify them as. Some guys say they are Debian, and I was thinking maybe Debian-like, but this is limited -- it just implies Debian derivatives. I now think that Debian family is better (instead of the awkward Debian and derivatives). – tshepang Nov 16 '10 at 23:26
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Yeah, it can definitely be hard to describe things, especially in a world as fragmented as *nix and all the associated software, and especially in a single word. (And it's even worse with Ubuntu, where quite a lot of users probably don't even know about Debian.) – Cascabel Nov 16 '10 at 23:27
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@polemon: Yeah, but it's family. Think of it as an adopted child. It acts like Unix family because it was raised by it. – tshepang Mar 22 '11 at 11:03
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The real reason is that a lot of software disliked the original domain name, *nix.stackexchange.com. Honest!
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FWIW, unix.se exists.
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1unix.SE was an abbreviation of unix.stackexchange. No one was suggesting unix.se as the exact domain name. – Cascabel Feb 28 '11 at 14:53
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2Yeah, but it's confusing. And not confusing in a good way — it's parochial and plays up an unfortunate we-are-the-world clique-like aspect of Stack Exchange. Much, much better to use something like unix-SE as shorthand. – mattdm Feb 28 '11 at 15:59
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@mattdm Can StackOverflow Inc. purchase the .se top-level domain? – Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' Feb 28 '11 at 23:26
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@Gilles: Great. I'm surprised no one has suggesting suing the current owners of wanted *.se domains because they were squatting in the way of the one true use. – Charles Stewart Mar 1 '11 at 6:57
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I remember people suggesting things like kernelpanic.com or other unix-error related name. Personally, I'd like to see that it'd get its own domain name.
Don't know if that's still possible, though.
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That was stopped soon after the first SE site was launched; see this blog post. In theory we can try to get a separate domain once we have huge amounts of traffic, but I'm not too worried about it – Michael Mrozek♦ Mar 24 '11 at 15:08
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"unix" is a widely recognized name, and even most of the users here know that 'UNIX(tm)-like' topics will apply to their situation.
This is not simply a SE problem, but the entire community has a problem coming up for the magic name that describes this the vast ecosystem of questions posed by "users of Linux, FreeBSD and other Un*x-like operating systems.".
The current and potential users of this site use Linux-based-operating systems, MacOSX, FreeBSD, Solaris, NanoBSD, OpenWRT and more. These operating systems, as well as concepts like 'Posix', share a lot in common. Users will have many of the same questions, and most of the answers here will often apply to many different operating systems.
Would a name like "linux.stackexchange.com" be better? Wouldn't that exclude FreeBSD, Solaris & MacOSX users? Just to make a point: 'Linux' is a kernel (or maybe it's a project?), not an operating system. Would questions regarding bash-shell or be appropriate on "linux.stackexchange.com"?
unix.stackexchange.com is better then a name like "gnu-linux_FreeBSD_Solaris_MacOSX_Posix_and_other_related_operating_systems.stackexchange.com".
'nix.stackexchange.com' sounds cool to me, but I'm sure it would be confusing to many people. A Lice Shampoo?
Whatever the answer, it needs to fit into the limitations of the DNS system. I would love a name like 'un*x.stackexchange.com', but that just won't work.
